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resumed and phil is there, standing by for us live and, phil, i understand that you have new information? >> reporter: yes, we just received some information from the russian foreign minister.
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it is interesting to note that he has basically also said that he would like to note the leading role by the u.s. delegation by john kerry and the secretary of state's involvement at this critical stage. he stayed that the mood is there to work constructively and he is looking forward to the next round that occurs on the 20th and we're awaiting to hear from secretary of state john kerry but wee's heard from katherine ashton and the iranian foreign minister that a deal could not be reached during these three days, three days plus now that we're into sunday here in geneva but we hear then from all of the foreign ministers who are putting out
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statements following the announcement that the deal was not reached. most of them seem to be saying already that there is some progress being made and that there is optimism but, you know, we'll have to see whether or not that actually does happen when they reconvene in a week's-plus jonathan? >> explain to us, for those not familiar with the diplomatic moves, why are they taking a week's break? why not just continue the negotiations? >> well, because look you have some of heaviest hitters here on the diplomat continue stage. every single foreign minister has come in unexpectedly to a pate here and that was not planned. and they have other obligations around the globe. you know? secretary of state kerry had to cancel a trip to north africa to stay here and to continue negotiations. certainly the other foreign
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ministers have obligations that they need to attend to. but it is interesting to note that they are not giving it an awful lot of time, not enough time for those who will oppose a deal to rally troops and then try to stop any kind of a deal before it really gets started and so the sense that there is still momentum is important and that they come back to the table as quickly as is reasonably possible so that they can try, at least, to try to pick up where they left off but as our guest a few moments ago was saying, it will be hard to keep the momentum, even with this 12 or 11-day gap that is going to happen. jonathan? >> phil, talk about the timing, because the timing is critical in this. there is much concern that the longer that this will drag on, the more leverage that iran gets. correct? >> well, certainly. i mean, there is a strong
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desire, obviously, by a number of parties that -- that there is never going to be a deal with iran. there is an awful lot of distrust which has been built up since the '79 revolution. and it has been interesting to note that some who have watched here say that the iranians and the united states have actually held more direct talks in these last 24 hours than they did in 30-plus years and so there's the issue of overcoming that distrust. and it will be vital if this is going to continue without any outside interinterference from third parties. >> well, world leaders seem rather optimistic tonight as we heard earlier from katherine ashton, eu foreign policy chief saying that concrete progress was made but differences remain. this is what she had to say moments ago.
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>> we will reconvene with the directors here on the 20th of november. >> a lot of diplomatic language there, phil, but just how much do you think that you can read into that, especially given that we just heard from our guest that they can say one thing and say that they are close to a deal with the reality could well be something quite different. >> yes, obviously, jonathan, this is diplomatic speak. if you have covered any of these meetings before, they may come out and say one thing and might have smiles on their faces but, you know, this is not where they wanted to be. when these talks started, there was cautious optimism. that was the buzzword floated around here. the fact that they have not been able to come to an agreement certainly will be a disappointment.
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and so all of this talk of optimism, hope, good faith and what-have-you and progress made over the last three days certainly we did hear during this process that progress was being made. we heard even before the talks started in a background briefing with the u.s. delegation that they thought that it was the first time that the iranians had ever come to these talks in earnest, willing to talk, sit down and hash out something but will they lose that momentum? will there be interference from outside? you know, they would not call for more talks and a resumption of these talks on the 20th if there was nowhere to go with this. it is not dead. does not look to be death at this point but there were some issues that were a road block overcome. >> it is in the interests of iran to reach an agreement
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because the country is struggling because of these sanctions but if something does not happen. if there is no deal reached, is there any more ref rank from the united states, other world leaders, to squeeze even tighter? >> well, that is a very good question, jonathan, something that was addressed even before these talks began because there are hardliners back in the states, you know, on the hill who say, well, the sanctions brought the iranians to the >> start with one issue education... gun control... the gap between rich and poor... job creation... climate change... tax cuts... the economy... iran... healthcare... it goes on and on... ad guests on all sides of the debate. and a host willing to ask the tough questions and you'll get... the inside story theses are strait forward conversations, no agenda, just hard hitting debate on the issues that matter to you
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ray suarez hosts inside story weekdays at 5 eastern only on al jazeera america them to go but the us delegation that came in here, they told us that -- that quite the opposite could happen, that that could actually poison the well and make things worse, make the stress so unbearable that the iranians will see those sanctions as pure belligerence and then walk away. if that is to happen, it will be a dangerous situation because it means that the diplomatic path will have closed and what happens after that, well, you know, there have obviously been talks of a military option but the u.s.a. says that that should be the absolute last option on the table. they much prefer the idea of trying to talk to the iranians. they do not -- there has been no discussion of a complete lifting of sanctions. they say that possibly by easing some things, perhaps as the iranians would like to see an
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